2023 Congressional hearing on UAP/UFOs. David Fravor, Ryan Graves, David Grusch

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Tom Vernon UAP
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November 11, 2024
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Tier 1First Person EncounterInterview with Experiencer
Experiencer: Ryan Graves, David Fravor, David Grusch

Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
hearing testimonyTopic: congressional hearingEra: 2020sIntel Value: 9/10

Ryan Graves

Contact Experience Triad

David Fravor

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE2

David Grusch

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE2

The Encounter

The UAP encounter took place during a congressional hearing on unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs). The hearing involved military personnel and witnesses discussing their experiences with UAPs. Witnesses shared accounts of sightings, including one by a former Navy pilot who described a close encounter with a UAP that appeared as a cube inside a sphere. The hearing aimed to address the lack of transparency from the government regarding UAPs and the stigma faced by those reporting sightings. The impact of the encounter led to calls for greater government accountability and transparency, as well as a push for more open discussions about UAPs among the public.

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Program Intelligence Analysis

Executive Summary

The congressional hearing on UAPs highlighted the urgent need for transparency and accountability regarding unidentified aerial phenomena. Witnesses, including military pilots and intelligence officials, testified about the serious safety threats posed by UAPs and the excessive classification practices that hinder public understanding. The hearing aimed to address the stigma surrounding UAP reporting and promote a more open dialogue about these phenomena.

Primary Revelation

There is a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that is being kept secret from Congress.

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Ryan Graves
witnesspro disclosure
Americans for Safe AerospaceUS Navy
Former US Navy F-18 pilotExperience with UAP firsthandFounded Americans for Safe Aerospace

UAP are in our airspace but they are grossly underreported.

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David Grusch
witnesspro disclosure
National Geospatial Intelligence AgencyUS Air Force
14 years as an intelligence officerCo-lead on UAP analysisFiled a whistleblower complaint

I became a whistleblower through a PPD-19 urgent concern filing.

D
David Fravor
witnesspro disclosure
US Navy
Retired Navy CommanderCommanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41Witnessed UAP firsthand

The Tic Tac object we engaged in 2004 was far superior to anything that we had at the time.

UAP Task Forcemodern (2019 to 2021)confirmed

Managed by: Department of Defense

Investigate UAP incidents and data

UAP Crash Retrieval and Reverse Engineering Programunknown (unknown to unknown)alleged

Managed by: unknown

Reverse engineer UAP technology

coverupspecific

The lack of transparency regarding UAPs has fueled wild speculation and debate for decades, eroding public trust in the institutions meant to serve and protect them.

Source: Unnamed individual
legislativespecific

The National Defense Authorization Act of 2022 established the All Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO) to coordinate efforts across the Department of Defense and other federal agencies to detect, identify, and investigate UAPs.

Source: Unnamed individual
coverupspecific

The Biden Administration's handling of the Chinese spy balloon incident demonstrates a lack of transparency regarding UAPs.

Source: Unnamed individual
otherspecific

68% of Americans believe the government is hiding information about UAPs.

Source: Unnamed individual
reverse engineeringhighly specific✦ Under Oath

There is a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program that is being kept secret from Congress.

Source: David Grusch
otherspecific✦ Under Oath

UAPs pose a serious safety threat and are grossly underreported.

Source: Ryan Graves
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Encounter with UAPs during military training flights, including a dark gray cube inside a clear sphere.

Ryan Graves · First-Person

Encounter Context

Factual Details

The analysis found no structured encounter context.

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
encounterUnknown Classification
Low Evidential StrengthScore: 10/21commentary
Detail & Specificity
1/3
Corroboration
1/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
2/3
Perceptual Clarity
1/3
Timely Reporting
3/3
Witness Credibility
1/3

The transcript primarily discusses the need for transparency and accountability regarding UAPs, referencing various historical figures and events without providing specific first-person accounts or detailed observations of UAP encounters. The lack of direct witness testimony and specific details limits the evidential strength.

The analysis found no relevant content for this section.

The analysis found no relevant content for this section.

The analysis found no relevant content for this section.

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The Tic Tac incident where a UAP was observed performing extraordinary maneuvers.

David Fravor · First-Person

Encounter Context

Factual Details
Military Witness
Branchus navy
RankLieutenant
BaseNaval Air Station Oceana
3 witnesses mentionedRyan GravesDavid GrushDavid Fravor
Reported to authorities

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
close encounterCE2
Moderate Evidential StrengthScore: 17/21reported
Detail & Specificity
3/3
Corroboration
2/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
3/3
Perceptual Clarity
3/3
Timely Reporting
2/3
Witness Credibility
3/3

The transcript presents a detailed account of UAP experiences from credible witnesses, including military personnel. While there are specific observations and claims made, corroboration and physical effects are not sufficiently addressed, limiting the overall evidential strength.

initial awarenessunknown

The speaker discusses the importance of transparency regarding UAPs and acknowledges the presence of witnesses sharing their experiences.

the American public has a right to learn about Technologies of unknown Origins non-human intelligence and unexplainable phenomena

detailed testimonyunknown

Witnesses share their experiences with UAPs, detailing encounters and the challenges faced in reporting them.

I have experienced Advanced UAP firsthand and I'm here to voice the concerns of more than 30 commercial air crew and military veterans

visual
5/10

Witnesses visually identified UAPs during encounters

electromagneticextraordinary
7/10

radar systems detected uaps

The analysis found no relevant content for this section.

Size5 to 15 ft
Colordark gray or black
Luminositynot stated
Soundnot stated
Movementunknown
Five Observables (2/5)
positive lift low observability hypersonic velocity trans medium travel instantaneous acceleration

A UAP was described as a dark gray or black cube inside a clear sphere that came within 50 ft of an aircraft.

What makes this encounter unique

The encounter highlights the systemic underreporting of UAP sightings by trained military and commercial pilots, emphasizing the need for transparency and acknowledgment from authorities.

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Claims of government secrecy regarding UAPs and knowledge of non-human technology.

David Grusch · First-Person

Encounter Context

Factual Details
2004-11-14Year: 2004

off the coast of California

San Diego, California, united_states

oceanopen ocean
Connected Encounters (1)
USS Nimitz
Military WitnessClearance Held
Branchunited states navy
RankCommander
BaseUSS Nimitz
Dutycommanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41
4 witnesses mentionedDavid FravorAlex Dietrich
Reported to authorities

incident was never investigated

Connected Events
2004 Tic Tac UFO IncidentNovember 2004

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
close encounterCE21 entityunknown
High Evidential StrengthScore: 21/21first person
Detail & Specificity
4/3
Corroboration
3/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
3/3
Perceptual Clarity
4/3
Timely Reporting
2/3
Witness Credibility
4/3

The speaker is a credible witness with extensive military experience and involvement in UAP analysis, providing detailed observations of a specific encounter. The account includes corroborative elements from multiple witnesses and emphasizes the importance of oversight and transparency regarding UAP phenomena.

initial encounter with uapminutes

The encounter began during a training exercise when the pilots were redirected to investigate an unidentified object that had been observed for weeks.

the controller had told us that these objects had been observed for over two weeks coming down from over 80,000 ft rapidly descending to 20,000 ft

Close Observation of the Tic Tacminutes

The pilots observed a Tic Tac-shaped object moving erratically over the ocean, leading to a closer examination.

we saw some white water off our right side... a small saw a white Tic Tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing North South and moving very abruptly over the water

Loss of Contact with the Objectminutes

After attempting to approach the object, it rapidly accelerated and disappeared, leading to confusion and a lack of follow-up investigation.

it rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared

visual
8/10

Clear visibility of the Tic Tac object against the ocean

auditory
6/10

Communication with air traffic control and between pilots

electromagneticextraordinary
7/10

Radar jamming experienced during the encounter

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unknown(single)
80%
Demeanornot statedCommunicationnoneInteractionobservation

Appearance: tic tac-shaped object

Shapetic tac
Colorwhite
Luminositynot stated
Soundnot stated
Movementinstant acceleration
Five Observables (2/5)
positive lift low observability hypersonic velocity trans medium travel instantaneous acceleration

The Tic Tac object was observed moving erratically over the ocean, displaying capabilities far beyond known technology.

What makes this encounter unique

The encounter involved a military pilot's firsthand experience with a Tic Tac-shaped object displaying extraordinary flight capabilities, leading to significant concerns about government transparency and oversight.

✦ AI-extracted phenomenological analysis — verify against source testimony

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Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
hearing testimonyTopic: congressional hearingEra: 2020sIntel Value: 9/10
1

Ryan Graves

First-Person

Contact Experience Triad

2

David Fravor

First-Person

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE2
3

David Grusch

First-Person

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE2
4

Unnamed Boeing Contractors (Vandenberg Air Force Base Incident)

Retold Account

This is a retold account. Triad scoring requires direct experiencer testimony.