UAPGerb: “The New Area51 Is HERE in Utah!”

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Jesse Michels
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February 21, 2025
434.3K views
Tier 1First Person EncounterInterview with Experiencer
Experiencer: Jake Barber, Jonathan Weant, Michael Herrera

Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
interviewTopic: crash retrievalEra: 1980s, 1990sIntel Value: 8/10

Jake Barber

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1

Jonathan Weant

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1

Michael Herrera

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: not_stated

The Encounter

The encounter involves a discussion between two individuals, one of whom is a UAP researcher. They talk about various UAP-related topics, including military technology and whistleblower accounts. They mention the Strategic Defense Initiative from 1983 and how it may have funded UAP programs. The researcher discusses a whistleblower named Jake Barber, who claims to have firsthand knowledge of a retrieved egg-shaped craft. They also reference other cases involving military personnel and their encounters with UAPs. The conversation highlights ongoing investigations and the complexities of government involvement in UAP research. The impact on the researcher includes a deeper understanding of UAP phenomena and a desire to share this information with the public.

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Program Intelligence Analysis

Executive Summary

The video discusses various claims regarding UAP programs, including the use of recovered technology to guide missiles and the retrieval of egg-shaped crafts. It highlights connections between historical figures and their involvement in UAP research, as well as the intersection of UFO phenomena and mental phenomena.

Primary Revelation

Jake Barber claims firsthand knowledge of retrieving an egg-shaped craft.

J
Jake Barber
whistleblowerpro disclosure

the whole Jake story for me goes back to investigating Michael Herrera

M
Michael Herrera
witnesspro disclosure

he kind of closes in on it and then this like really Elite paramilitary unit then basically takes his whole unit into custody

J
Jonathan Weant
witnesspro disclosure

he saw an extraterrestrial craft or a non-human intelligence craft

P
Philip J. Corso
program managerpro disclosure
official military records confirm his position

the foreign technology division was trying to use recovered technology to use human brain waves to guide ICBM missiles

A
Albert Stubblebine
military officialunknown

this was funded by the leader of US Army inscom

Stargate ProjectCold War (1972 to 1995)confirmed

Managed by: SRI International

psychic espionage and intelligence gathering

UFO Working GroupCold War (1986 to unknown)alleged

Managed by: US Army

study and manipulate UFOs

technologyspecific

The foreign technology division was trying to use recovered technology to use human brain waves to guide ICBM missiles.

Source: Unnamed individual
fundingspecific

The 1983 Strategic Defense Initiative had a back door to fund UAP programs and act offensively against UAP.

Source: Unnamed individual
crash retrievalspecific
+1 Corroborators

Jake Barber claims firsthand knowledge of retrieving an egg-shaped craft.

Source: Unnamed individual
crash retrievalspecific

Jonathan Weant encountered a crashed UAP in Peru in 1997.

Source: Unnamed individualEvent: 1997
reverse engineeringspecific

The operators of the Roswell craft were part of the guidance system MH.

Source: Unnamed individual
scientificvague
+2 Corroborators

There is a connection between UFOs and mental phenomena, as discussed in meetings from the 1950s.

Source: Unnamed individual
✦ AI-extracted program intelligence — verify against source testimony
1

Claims firsthand knowledge of retrieving an egg-shaped craft.

Jake Barber · Interview

Encounter Context

Factual Details
1997-02-01Year: 1997

Peru

peru

Connected Encounters (1)
ground-based radar systems
Military Witness
Branchmarines
RankLance Corporal
DutyOperation Laser Strike
3 witnesses mentionedJonathan WeantSergeant Allen
Connected Events
Operation Laser Strike1997
Michael Herrera's encounterFebruary 2024

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
physical sightingCE11 entityunknown
Low Evidential StrengthScore: 9/21commentary
Detail & Specificity
2/3
Corroboration
1/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
2/3
Perceptual Clarity
1/3
Timely Reporting
1/3
Witness Credibility
1/3

The transcript primarily discusses various UAP-related topics and claims without presenting a specific first-person account. The details mentioned are vague and lack corroboration or specific evidence, leading to a low score overall.

Initial Discussion of UAP Phenomenaunknown

The conversation begins with a discussion about UAPs and related technologies, including military applications and historical context.

the foreign technology division was trying to use recovered technology to use human brain waves to guide ICBM missiles

deep dive into specific casesunknown

The discussion shifts to specific UAP cases, including the Jake Barber story and the investigation of Jonathan Weant's encounter with a crashed UAP.

he encountered a crashed UAP, kind of large egg-shaped featured some ubiquitous features

visualextraordinary
7/10

Descriptions of craft features and appearances

?
unknown(few)
50%
Demeanornot statedCommunicationnot statedInteractionobservation
Luminositynot stated
Soundnot stated
Five Observables (0/5)
positive lift low observability hypersonic velocity trans medium travel instantaneous acceleration

The craft is described as large and egg-shaped, with a mother of pearl effect on its skin.

What makes this encounter unique

The encounter involves discussions of multiple UAP cases and technologies, highlighting a blend of historical context and personal accounts.

✦ AI-extracted phenomenological analysis — verify against source testimony
2

Describes encountering a crashed UAP while stationed in Peru in 1997.

Jonathan Weant · Interview

Encounter Context

Factual Details
2009-01-01Year: 2009
Military Witness
Branchmarines
3 witnesses mentionedJonathan WanMichael HerreraJake Barber
Connected Events
Jonathan Wan's encounter
Michael Herrera's encounter

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
physical sightingCE11 entityhumanoid
Low Evidential StrengthScore: 11/21commentary
Detail & Specificity
2/3
Corroboration
1/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
2/3
Perceptual Clarity
2/3
Timely Reporting
1/3
Witness Credibility
2/3

The account discusses multiple UAP encounters involving named individuals but lacks direct first-person testimony from the speaker. The details provided are somewhat vague and speculative, with no corroboration or specific evidence presented.

initial encounter descriptionunknown

The experiencer discusses Jonathan Wan's encounter involving a non-human intelligence craft and Michael Herrera's experience with a human-made craft.

Jonathan said he saw an extraterrestrial craft or a non-human intelligence craft.

visualextraordinary
8/10

saw an extraterrestrial craft

humanoid(few)
50%
DemeanorneutralCommunicationnot statedInteractionobservation
Shapeunknown
Colorvanta black
Luminositynot stated
Soundnot stated
Movementhovering
Five Observables (0/5)
positive lift low observability hypersonic velocity trans medium travel instantaneous acceleration

Jonathan Wan described seeing a craft that was vanta black and hovering above the treetops.

What makes this encounter unique

The encounter involves both a non-human intelligence craft and a human-made craft, highlighting a potential connection between military operations and UAP phenomena.

✦ AI-extracted phenomenological analysis — verify against source testimony
3

Describes seeing a craft hovering above treetops in Indonesia.

Michael Herrera · Interview

Encounter Context

Factual Details

The analysis found no structured encounter context.

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
not statednot_statedDuration: not_stated
Low Evidential StrengthScore: 9/21commentary
Detail & Specificity
2/3
Corroboration
1/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
2/3
Perceptual Clarity
1/3
Timely Reporting
1/3
Witness Credibility
1/3

The speaker discusses various elements related to UAPs and government involvement but lacks a specific first-person encounter or detailed case. The claims are largely speculative and anecdotal, with minimal verifiable details.

The analysis found no relevant content for this section.

noeticextraordinary
7/10

experiencer discusses receiving downloads and signals

The analysis found no relevant content for this section.

What makes this encounter unique

The discussion revolves around government involvement in UAP research and the concept of receiving psychic downloads, which is a unique perspective on the phenomenon.

✦ AI-extracted phenomenological analysis — verify against source testimony

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Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
interviewTopic: crash retrievalEra: 1980s, 1990sIntel Value: 8/10
1

Jake Barber

Interview

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1
2

Jonathan Weant

Interview

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1
3

Michael Herrera

Interview

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: not_stated