Talking Tic Tacs in the SCIF — July 2025

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Stellar Productions
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July 14, 2025
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Tier 2Research and IntelligenceNews & Commentary

Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
panel discussionTopic: technology scienceIntel Value: 8/10

Summary

The encounter involves a discussion on the Need to Know podcast, hosted by Bryce Zabel and Ross Couthart. During episode 65, Couthart revealed unexpected claims about UAP technology. He stated that the U.S. may have had anti-gravity technology for decades and suggested that recent drone sightings could be advanced Chinese technology. He also claimed that the Tic Tac UAP is Lockheed Martin technology. This revelation shocked Zabel, who expressed a desire for further exploration of these claims. The discussion sparked significant community engagement and debate about the implications of these statements on the understanding of UAPs and potential disclosure of non-human intelligence. The encounter led to ongoing discussions within the UAP community, indicating a shift in perspectives and increased interest in the topic.

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Program Intelligence Analysis

Executive Summary

The discussion centers around recent claims regarding UAP technology, including assertions that the US has made significant advancements in anti-gravitics and that current drone incursions may be attributed to advanced Chinese technology. Additionally, there are bold statements about the Tic Tac phenomenon being linked to Lockheed Martin and potentially operated through psionic means.

Primary Revelation

The Tic Tac is Lockheed Martin technology.

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Ross Couthart
journalistpro disclosure
Need to Know podcastReality Check
long-standing journalistcollaborator with other credible figures

I now know categorically that the Tic Tac is Lockheed Martin technology.

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Tyler Stevens
otherpro disclosure
Need to Know podcast
producer of Need to Know podcast

I definitely knew this episode that this was going to have a lot of buzz from the community.

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Jason Gilmette
otherpro disclosure
UAP Studies podcast

If it's Lockheed Martin, they're playing around war games near military ships.

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Ryan Robbins
otherpro disclosure
Post Disclosure World

We should disclose because that technology should not be exclusively applied to national security.

technologyspecific

The US has had an anti-gravitics breakthrough maybe 40 or 50 years ago.

Source: Ross Couthart
internationalspecific

The drone flap is Chinese technology and is so advanced they could ground the entire US Air Force.

Source: Ross Couthart
reverse engineeringhighly specific

The Tic Tac is Lockheed Martin technology.

Source: Ross Couthart
non human intelligencespecific

The Tic Tac may be operated psionically by a human psionic.

Source: Ross Couthart
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Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
panel discussionTopic: technology scienceIntel Value: 8/10