De-Materialization Tech: In Use Since 1953! | Disclosure Advocates Series

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Dr. Steven Greer
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December 30, 2013
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Tier 1First Person EncounterFirst-Person Account
Experiencer: Fred Threlfall

Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
interviewTopic: otherEra: 1950s, 1990sIntel Value: 7/10

Fred Threlfall

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1

The Encounter

Fred Thall was a Communications instructor in the Royal Canadian Air Force in the early 1950s. He encountered a strange event while visiting an experiment at an air station in Toronto. He saw a large glass ashtray dematerialize from one room and reappear in another room. This happened after scientists energized their equipment. Fred was not part of the investigation team but had top clearance to be in the facility. He had a strong interest in UFOs and had seen many films showing unidentified objects during World War II. After this encounter, he became more curious about anti-gravity research and UFOs, but he did not mention any lasting impact on his life.

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Program Intelligence Analysis

Executive Summary

Fred Thall recounts his experiences in the Royal Canadian Air Force during the 1950s, including witnessing an ashtray dematerialize and rematerialize during an experiment. He also discusses observing UFOs in World War II films and the potential for anti-gravity research by aerospace corporations.

Primary Revelation

An ashtray dematerialized and then rematerialized during an experiment I witnessed in 1953.

F
Fred Thall
witnesspro disclosure
Royal Canadian Air Force
Top clearance in the Royal Canadian Air ForceWitnessed classified experimentsExperience as a communications instructor

I wasn't supposed to see that because I wasn't part of the investigation team or the scientist.

Anti-Gravity Research1950s (unknown to unknown)alleged

Managed by: Major Aerospace Corporations

Research into anti-gravity technology

technologyspecific

An ashtray dematerialized and then rematerialized during an experiment I witnessed in 1953.

Source: Fred ThallEvent: 1953 | Claimed: 1990
historical eventspecific

I observed strange objects in films from World War II that appeared to be UFOs.

Source: Fred ThallEvent: 1940s | Claimed: 1990
othervague

I have seen maneuvers in the sky at complete right angles and rapid speeds.

Source: Fred ThallEvent: various | Claimed: 1990
reverse engineeringvague

There was a major endeavor by aerospace corporations into anti-gravity research.

Source: Fred ThallEvent: various | Claimed: 1990
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Encounter Context

Factual Details
1953-01-01Year: 1953

Royal Canadian Air Force station

Toronto, Ontario, canada

military base
Connected Encounters (1)
Old Hunt Club
Military WitnessClearance Held
Branchroyal canadian air force
DutyCommunications instructor
3 witnesses mentioned

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
close encounterCE1
Moderate Evidential StrengthScore: 17/21first person
Detail & Specificity
3/3
Corroboration
2/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
3/3
Perceptual Clarity
3/3
Timely Reporting
2/3
Witness Credibility
3/3

The account provides a detailed first-person narrative from a former Royal Canadian Air Force instructor, describing an experiment involving the apparent dematerialization and rematerialization of an ashtray. While the witness has a credible background and offers specific observations, the lack of corroboration and the subjective nature of the experience limit the overall evidential strength.

initial experiment observationunknown

Fred describes witnessing an experiment where an ashtray dematerialized and then reappeared in another room, generating excitement among the scientists.

the ashtray wasn't sitting there... it dematerialized and materialized

engagement with the experimentunknown

Fred engaged with the scientists and discussed the experiment, noting his top clearance allowed him to be present despite not being part of the investigation team.

I said yes sir and I went back to my classroom

reflection on ufosunknown

Fred reflects on his experiences with UFOs, mentioning various shapes and sightings he observed in films, which piqued his curiosity.

I had seen the Maneuvers in the sky at complete right angles and rapid speed

visualextraordinary
7/10

Observed the ashtray dematerializing and various UFO shapes in films

auditory
5/10

Conversations with scientists and excitement in the room

The analysis found no relevant content for this section.

What makes this encounter unique

Fred's background as a communications instructor and his top clearance allowed him to witness a unique experiment involving dematerialization, which he connected to his interest in UFOs.

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Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
interviewTopic: otherEra: 1950s, 1990sIntel Value: 7/10
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Fred Threlfall

First-Person

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1