A Nordic Alien Encounter… 7 Years BEFORE Roswell | DEBRIEFED ep. 65

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December 5, 2025
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Tier 2Research and IntelligenceRetold Encounter
Experiencer: Udo Wartena

Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
documentaryTopic: otherEra: 1940s, 1980sIntel Value: 8/10

Summary

Udo Wartana was a Dutch immigrant living in the United States in 1940. While inspecting an old mining claim in the Montana foothills, he encountered a disc-shaped craft and two human-like beings. One being spoke to him in clear English and asked to take some water. Wartana entered the craft, where he saw indirect lighting and met another being. They discussed their technology, which involved flywheels that allowed the craft to float. After about two hours, Wartana left the craft, feeling overwhelmed but not fearful. He later reflected on the experience and wrote a letter to Senator John Glenn, believing the technology could help with energy shortages. The encounter had a lasting impact on him, leading him to share his story with close friends but not publicly during his lifetime.

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Program Intelligence Analysis

Executive Summary

The video discusses Udo Wartana's 1940 encounter with a disc-shaped craft and human-like beings, which he later documented in a manuscript. Wartana's claims include detailed descriptions of the beings and their technology, as well as a letter he wrote to Senator John Glenn in 1980 suggesting the technology could help with energy issues.

Primary Revelation

Udo Wartana's encounter with human-like beings and their advanced technology predates the modern UFO narrative.

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Udo Wartana
witnesspro disclosure
Handwritten manuscript shared with friendsLetter to Senator John GlennInterview notes taken by Tim Grossnickel

This is at its core a documented conversation with an alien years before Roswell.

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Chris Ramsey
journalistpro disclosure
Area 52 podcast

I think that's where a lot of the credibility for me lies.

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Tim Grossnickel
investigatorneutral

Your father was the first person I ever told about it.

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James Thompson
program managerpro disclosure

MUON has called the case the most significant humanoid contact case on record.

non human intelligencehighly specific

Udo Wartana reported an encounter with a disc-shaped craft and two human-like beings in Montana in 1940.

Source: Udo WartanaEvent: 1940-05-04 | Claimed: 1980
non human intelligencespecific

Wartana described the beings as tall, blonde, muscular, and calm, who spoke to him in clear English.

Source: Udo WartanaEvent: 1940-05-04 | Claimed: 1980
technologyspecific

Wartana stated that the beings explained their technology, which involved flywheels that allowed their craft to overcome gravitational pull.

Source: Udo WartanaEvent: 1940-05-04 | Claimed: 1980
legislativespecific

Wartana wrote a letter to Senator John Glenn in 1980, suggesting that the technology he learned from the beings could help with the U.S. energy crisis.

Source: Udo WartanaEvent: 1980 | Claimed: 1980
non human intelligencespecific

The beings invited Wartana to come aboard their craft, but he declined due to concerns about inconveniencing others.

Source: Udo WartanaEvent: 1940-05-04 | Claimed: 1980
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Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
documentaryTopic: otherEra: 1940s, 1980sIntel Value: 8/10
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Udo Wartena

Retold Account

This is a retold account. Triad scoring requires direct experiencer testimony.