[The UFO Rabbit Hole] July 2023 Post-Hearing Analysis

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Inquiry with Kelly Chase
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August 3, 2023
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Tier 1First Person EncounterInterview with Experiencer
Experiencer: Ryan Graves, David Fravor, David Grusch

Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
hearing testimonyTopic: congressional hearingEra: 2020sIntel Value: 9/10

Ryan Graves

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1

David Fravor

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1

David Grusch

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE2

The Encounter

The encounter involved three witnesses testifying before Congress about UAPs. Ryan Graves, a former Navy pilot, shared his experiences with UAPs during military operations. He described how his squadron frequently encountered unidentified objects that posed safety risks. David Grush, a former intelligence officer, claimed the government has secret programs related to UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering. He reported retaliation against whistleblowers who tried to disclose information. David Fravor, another Navy pilot, recounted a specific incident in 2004 involving a Tic Tac-shaped object that exhibited advanced maneuvers. The encounter led to increased attention on UAPs, but the witnesses expressed concerns about the lack of transparency and the stigma surrounding reporting these sightings. The impact of the hearing was significant, as it opened discussions about government accountability and the need for better reporting mechanisms.

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Program Intelligence Analysis

Executive Summary

The July 26 hearing marked a significant moment in the push for UAP disclosure, with witnesses testifying about government cover-ups and the existence of non-human biologics. The hearing highlighted the need for increased transparency and accountability regarding UAP encounters and whistleblower protections.

Primary Revelation

The United States is in possession of what I call non-human biologics.

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Ryan Graves
witnesspro disclosure
U.S. NavyAmericans for Safe Aerospace
military servicetestimony under oathfounded Americans for Safe Aerospace

I have experienced Advanced UAP firsthand and I'm here to voice the concerns of more than 30 commercial air crew and military veterans.

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David Grusch
witnesspro disclosure
U.S. Air ForceNational Geospatial Intelligence Agency
military servicetestimony under oathPPD 19 urgent concern filing

I became a whistleblower through a PPD 19 urgent concern filing in May 2022.

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David Fravor
witnesspro disclosure
U.S. Navy
military servicetestimony under oath

The Tic Tac object we engaged in 2004 was far superior to anything that we had on time.

UAP Task Forcemodern (2019 to 2021)confirmed

Managed by: U.S. Department of Defense

Analyze unidentified aerial phenomena

UAP Crash Retrieval and Reverse Engineering Programunknown (unknown to unknown)alleged

Managed by: unknown

Retrieve and reverse engineer UAP technology

coverupspecific✦ Under Oath

UAP are in our airspace but they are grossly under-reported; these sightings are not rare or isolated.

Source: Ryan Graves
coverupspecific✦ Under Oath

Parts of our government are aware of more about UAP than they let on; excessive classification practices keep crucial information hidden.

Source: Ryan Graves
reverse engineeringspecific✦ Under Oath

I was informed in the course of my official duties of a multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse engineering program.

Source: David Grush
biologicsspecific✦ Under Oath

The United States is in possession of what I call non-human biologics.

Source: David Grush
intimidationspecific✦ Under Oath

Whistleblowers have faced retaliation for coming forward with information about UAP.

Source: David Grush
fundingspecific✦ Under Oath

Programs for retrieving and reverse engineering non-human technology are being funded without Congressional oversight.

Source: David Grush
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Ryan Graves's Encounters

Ryan Graves · First-Person

Encounter Context

Factual Details
2023-07-26Year: 2023

U.S. House Oversight Committee hearing

Washington, D.C., united_states

Military WitnessClearance Held
Branchu.s. navy
RankLieutenant
3 witnesses mentionedRyan GravesDavid GrushDavid Fravor
Reported to authorities

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
physical sightingCE11 entityunknown
Low Evidential StrengthScore: 10/21commentary
Detail & Specificity
2/3
Corroboration
1/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
2/3
Perceptual Clarity
1/3
Timely Reporting
1/3
Witness Credibility
2/3

The analysis primarily discusses the implications of the congressional hearing and the testimonies of witnesses without presenting a specific first-person account of a UAP encounter. While it references credible witnesses and their claims, the lack of detailed, verifiable accounts limits the evidential strength. Key elements such as witness credibility and corroboration are mentioned but not substantiated with specific details.

initial sightingunknown

The experiencer describes a series of UAP sightings by military pilots, emphasizing the frequency and seriousness of these encounters.

UAP are in our airspace but they are grossly under-reported; these sightings are not rare or isolated.

detailed encounter descriptionunknown

The experiencer recounts specific encounters with UAP, including a detailed description of a Tic Tac object observed during a military training exercise.

We noticed that we saw some white water off our right side... a small saw white Tic-Tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing North South.

post-encounter reflectionunknown

The experiencer reflects on the implications of the encounters and the ongoing secrecy surrounding UAP.

The reality of the phenomenon is not something that they're going to be able to put back into the box this time.

visualextraordinary
8/10

Observed a Tic Tac object and other UAP in the sky

electromagneticextraordinary
7/10

Radar and sensor anomalies during encounters

?
unknown(many)
70%
Demeanornot statedCommunicationnoneInteractionobservation
Shapetic tac
Size5 to 15 feet in diameter
Colordark gray or black
Luminositynot stated
Soundsilent
Movementzig zag, instant acceleration
Five Observables (4/5)
positive lift low observability hypersonic velocity trans medium travel instantaneous acceleration

The experiencer describes a Tic Tac object moving rapidly and exhibiting unusual maneuvers.

What makes this encounter unique

The encounter involved multiple military pilots observing UAP, highlighting the systemic underreporting and stigma surrounding such sightings.

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Encounter with a Tic Tac object during a training exercise off the coast of California.

David Fravor · First-Person

Encounter Context

Factual Details

warning area whiskey 72, 10 miles off the coast

Virginia Beach, Virginia, united_states

coastal
Military WitnessClearance Held
Branchu.s. air force
RankMajor
Dutyintelligence officer, co-lead on UAP analysis
Service14 years
30 witnesses mentionedDavid Charles Grush
Reported to authorities

no official acknowledgment of the incident

Connected Events
UAP sightings by commercial pilots

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
physical sightingCE1
High Evidential StrengthScore: 20/21first person
Detail & Specificity
3/3
Corroboration
3/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
3/3
Perceptual Clarity
3/3
Timely Reporting
3/3
Witness Credibility
4/3

The account provides detailed observations of UAP encounters by trained military personnel, including specific descriptions of the objects and their behaviors. The involvement of multiple witnesses and the establishment of an organization for UAP reporting further enhance the credibility of the claims. The speaker's background as an intelligence officer adds to the reliability of the information presented.

initial sightingunknown

During a training mission, two F-18 Super Hornets encountered a UAP described as a dark gray or black cube inside a clear sphere.

the object described as a dark gray or a black Cube inside of a clear sphere came within 50 feet of the lead aircraft

return to baseunknown

The mission Commander terminated the flight immediately and returned to base after the encounter.

the mission Commander terminated the flight immediately and returned base

reporting and advocacyongoing

Following the incident, the Squadron submitted a safety report, and the speaker founded Americans for Safe Aerospace to advocate for UAP transparency.

I founded Americans for safe Aerospace the organization has since become a heaven for UAP Witnesses

visualextraordinary
8/10

Dark gray or black cube inside a clear sphere

The analysis found no relevant content for this section.

Size5 to 15 feet
Colordark gray or black
Luminositynot stated
Soundnot stated
Five Observables (0/5)
positive lift low observability hypersonic velocity trans medium travel instantaneous acceleration

The UAP was described as a dark gray or black cube inside a clear sphere, coming within 50 feet of the aircraft.

What makes this encounter unique

The encounter involved multiple military witnesses and a significant organizational response advocating for transparency regarding UAP sightings.

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Claims of illegal retaliation against whistleblowers and knowledge of UAP crash retrieval programs.

David Grusch · Interview

Encounter Context

Factual Details
2004-11-14Year: 2004

off the coast of California

San Diego, California, united_states

oceanopen ocean
Connected Encounters (2)
USS NimitzUSS Princeton
Military WitnessClearance Held
Branchunited states navy
RankCommander
BaseUSS Nimitz
Dutycommanding officer of Strike Fighter Squadron 41
4 witnesses mentionedDavid FravorAlex Dietrich
Reported to authorities

incident was never investigated

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
close encounterCE21 entityunknown
High Evidential StrengthScore: 20/21first person
Detail & Specificity
4/3
Corroboration
3/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
3/3
Perceptual Clarity
4/3
Timely Reporting
1/3
Witness Credibility
4/3

The speaker is a retired Navy commander with credible military background, providing a detailed account of a UAP encounter involving multiple witnesses and radar data. The description includes specific details about the object's behavior and the context of the encounter, along with corroboration from other pilots and official investigations.

initial encounterminutes

The encounter began during a training mission when the pilots were redirected to investigate unidentified objects observed over a two-week period.

we were told that the training was going to be suspended and we're doing we're going to proceed with real world tasking

close observationminutes

The pilots observed a Tic-Tac shaped object moving erratically over the ocean, with no visible means of propulsion.

we saw a small white Tic-Tac object with a longitudinal axis pointing North South and moving very abruptly over the water like a ping pong ball

loss of contactminutes

The object rapidly accelerated away from the pilots and disappeared, leading to a return to their original position.

it rapidly accelerated in front of us and disappeared

visualextraordinary
8/10

Clear visibility of the Tic-Tac object against the ocean

electromagneticextraordinary
7/10

Radar jamming experienced during the encounter

?
unknown(single)
80%
Demeanornot statedCommunicationnoneInteractionobservation

Appearance: tic-tac shaped object

Shapetic tac
Colorwhite
Luminositynot stated
Soundnot stated
Movementhovering, instant acceleration
Five Observables (3/5)
positive lift low observability hypersonic velocity trans medium travel instantaneous acceleration

The Tic-Tac object was observed moving abruptly over the water, exhibiting rapid acceleration and no visible means of propulsion.

What makes this encounter unique

The encounter involved a military training exercise that unexpectedly transitioned into a real-world UAP investigation, highlighting the object's extraordinary movement capabilities.

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Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
hearing testimonyTopic: congressional hearingEra: 2020sIntel Value: 9/10
1

Ryan Graves

First-Person

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1
2

David Fravor

First-Person

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE1
3

David Grusch

Interview

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE2